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NY_HAMMER 6:34 Thu Sep 10
Palestinians have become obsessive “tragedy tourists”
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Dear Palestinians,
Lets get a few things straight. You do not get to claim a genocide when your population has exploded. As someone whose family has gone through one, I am telling you to cut that s*** out, it’s offensive and it’s annoying.
You did not “go through what Native Americans went through.” Nobody forced you to speak an alien language, worship God in an alien manner and steal your sacred places. As a matter of fact THAT’S WHAT YOU DID. You stole sacred places, forced indigenous people to speak Arabic and worship god as Muslims. So seriously cut that out too.
You did not in fact have a civil rights struggle like black people in America. Black people in America didn’t blow up school buses or pizzerias filled with school kids in order to achieve equal rights, and they damn sure didn’t talk endlessly about pushing white people into the sea.
You are not persecuted like gay people, for something that is beyond your control. Nobody throws you off buildings because you love someone you shouldn’t. So again, cut that out, it’s getting old, especially when some of us are well aware that your society not only hates gay people but actively persecutes them. You are the guys throwing them from buildings.
You do not get to keep stealing stories. You stole the identity of what was known as ‘Palestinian’. Before World War II the term meant Jews. But that’s OK, it’s a colonialist term, and I am sure that my Jewish friends don’t want it. They prefer to be called Jews, Hebrews, Israelites or Israelis, so you can take your colonialist garbage and get lost.
You think that yours is the only struggle in the world that has relevance. When anyone else has the nerve to have a tragedy, you make damn sure to jump in immediately to prevent him/her from ever having five minutes in the media without you trying to co-opt their struggle.
Ferguson? Screw Ferguson, it’s Ferguson to Palestine! Black lives matter? Hell no, you gotta hashtag Blacklives matter, but then you hashtag “palestianianlivesmatter” right after, because god forbid anything not be about you.
Ethnic cleansing? So why is it there is 0% Jews in the Arab controlled area of the Palestinian Authority and almost 2 million Arabs in the Jewish controlled areas? I think it’s clear who is ethnic cleanser here.
Idle No More? Native rights? Nope, it needs to be Palestine stands in solidarity with idle no more or Palestine supports Native peoples rights, even though you clearly don’t. Nobody offered to give us a state, and we actually are on our ancestral lands.
Bring back our girls? People were upset about Muslims kidnapping Christian girls in Nigeria and you managed to hook your wagon to that? Seriously? Come on, seriously you had to at least chuckle on that one. You can admit it.
The native American struggle against settler colonialism? Nope it’s always “from turtle island to Palestine”, even though anyone with a 3rd grade education knows that the Arabs are in fact the colonists who colonised the entire damn region in the 7th century killing and force converting indigenous people all over the entire region. YOU ARE NOT INDIGENOUS TO THE LANDS YOU ARE TRYING TO CLAIM. Say it with me: “Jews are from Judea, Arabs are from Arabia.” You can live there, you just don’t get to oppress people anymore.
When 3 Jewish kids were kidnapped (murdered actually) you celebrated, you handed out candy, and you smiled and took pictures holding up fingers celebrating an evil act, but then you had the absolute unmitigated gall to start hashtagging “bringbackourboys”? Really?
Now a little boy’s body washes up on shore in Turkey, a victim of an uncaring world that has allowed the conflict in Syria and the proliferation of ISIS to cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands, all while fixating on the “plight of the Palestinians” and you jerks can’t even let the world see that without trying to jump on the back of that child’s death? Shame on you, shame on you, shame on you. If you had a conscience you would be ashamed.
I could go on, because let’s be honest, every single tragedy I have seen in the world during the past few decades has immediately been followed by “but have you seen what the Jews are doing to the Palestinians?” You have become tragedy tourists. You have no legit tragedy of your own, so you are forced to exaggerate and co-opt, and you have no shame.
Yes, I have seen what’s happening in Gaza and the PA, and it’s not even remotely the same goddamn thing as the things you claim. It’s time for you people to grow the hell up, not everything is about you, not every refugee gets to be a whiny entitled refugee for 67 goddamn years. Some of us move forward, some of us don’t steal from our own people and perpetuate the conflict to keep skimming money.
You want to know the truth? This is why the Palestinians cannot have nice things.
Absolutely no regards,
Ryan Bellerose,
P.S. Feel free to be butthurt, oddly enough I remain unconcerned.
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peckham massive
2:25 Sat Sep 12
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stirlinghammer 7:33 Fri Sep 11
To be fair to Rios, from what I've heard, the liberal Jewish Israelis do not agree with the right wing government, but can do nothing about it, and so are leaving the country.
When I was in Jerusalem, a (Jewish obvs.) mayor spoke out about the killing of a Palestinian baby in a house fire petrol bombed by a Jewish settler. His car had a bomb planted underneath it the next day. It went off, but the mayor was not in the car.
Normal, nice liberal thinking Jewish Israelis either keep quiet or leave.
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Golden Oldie
7:42 Fri Sep 11
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Don't mention the Talmud whatever you do
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stirlinghammer
7:33 Fri Sep 11
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But Rio you are very quick to judge ethnics in other countries because of the stance of their governments. The Israeli government has made their position crystal clear. Are you saying they don't represent Judiasm? It is the jewish state after all. What does the Torah say?
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Golden Oldie
7:27 Fri Sep 11
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Ahh the diatribe of the caring and compassionate
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riosleftsock
7:21 Fri Sep 11
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Actually Stirling, most Israelis I know want to help the refugees, but the security concerns are so grave that there is only so much they can do.
The people of Lebanon, and the bordering Syrians and Northern Israelis are remarkably similar and actually get along very well for the most part - much to the chagrin of the Governments of Netanyahu, Assad and Hezboullah.
Its such a shame, as it is probably the most beautiful and interesting part of the med.
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stirlinghammer
1:49 Fri Sep 11
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Israel was created by jewish migrants survivors from European ghettos and refugees so their current stance with regard to helping with the refugee crisis is laughable. They just want to build another wall.
Israel appears to be ok to treat IS fighters in Israeli hospitals though. Every little helps.
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riosleftsock
12:20 Fri Sep 11
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Balders, apartheid is the wrong term.
But there is no doubt that Israel made some dreadful mistakes.
Joffa and Wadi Nisnas are just two places that amazingly still exist as palestinian ghettos in Israeli cities - the history behind them is apalling.
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Fifth Column
12:19 Fri Sep 11
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balders
So did you go to all the places listed by Peckham Massive? If not, it's not surprising you didn't.
Desmond Tutu visited Palestine and agreed it was practicing effective Apartheid. He knows a bit about Apartheid. Not more than Rios but then who does?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1957644.stm
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stirlinghammer
12:18 Fri Sep 11
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Where did you stay balders? In the nice tourist areas created by the new Jews?
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peckham massive
12:18 Fri Sep 11
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And to a small extent, he's right. Israel have given wealth to a lot of middle class (for want of a better word) Palestinians, creating many employment opportunities (building all the illegal settlements for example).
The Israelis aren't stupid. Palestinians in poverty are happier to demonstrate/throw stones etc as they have nothing to lose. Give them jobs, houses, cars, big TVs and they realise that could all go in an instant if they are caught even picking up a pebble.
So fewer people demonstrate/blow up bus stops in protest etc, and life becomes slightly more peaceful. The Israeli government then congratulates itself, telling the world how their illegal partition wall and domestic policy must be responsible.
Oh, and yes, the hummus is amazing.
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balders
12:16 Fri Sep 11
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When I went to Israel didn't see any of the apartheid shit
Beautiful country
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stirlinghammer
12:16 Fri Sep 11
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Leave it rio. You're gonna end up crying. It's a lovely sunny day.
Shalom cousin.
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riosleftsock
12:14 Fri Sep 11
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Which tv network peckham?
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stirlinghammer
12:05 Fri Sep 11
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Peckham - but according to rio, the hummus is great and the Palestinians have never had it so good.
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Brucies_Star_Prize
12:02 Fri Sep 11
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peckham massive 12:01 Fri Sep 11
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peckham massive
12:01 Fri Sep 11
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Just got back from a week in Jerusalem and the West Bank; Hebron, Bethlehem, Jericho, Ramallah etc with a friend who is the Jerusalem correspondent for a major TV network.
Having been told by him what is happening/has happened as well as seeing with my own eyes the racism and apartheid which is at every level, I can happily state that I have never read such a load of old shite.
OP, you sir, are an idiot if you believe this. Trying going there for yourself to see what is really going on.
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stirlinghammer
11:15 Fri Sep 11
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European, Russian and yank Jews went to the region as refugees and took over the joint. Good luck to them, hope they enjoy the party whilst it lasts.
Israel won't exist much longer.
Waits for sensitive Jews on here to have break downs, ask mods to ban posters and play the victim card.
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dealcanvey
10:56 Fri Sep 11
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You sir are a cunt.
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riosleftsock
10:41 Fri Sep 11
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Just for fun united
http://cdn2.listsoplenty.com/listsoplenty-cdn/uploads/2010/04/Map-Israel-1000-BC.jpg
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unitedsound
10:31 Fri Sep 11
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Find me a map before 1945 where Israel is on it?
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
10:26 Fri Sep 11
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alphaharps 1:44 Fri Sep 11
'oh no Surface used the phrase "virtue signalling"
Lets hope there was irony there, and he's not a total wanker'
Since you are one of the site's main culprits, it must make you VERY CROSS. But I don't suppose people that fuck children like being called paedos, either, mate, so best you just suck it up.
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